18 October 2010

REPOST,Vienna-1970-1, Masters of Unorthodox Jazz, & Reform Art Unit-LP-WM-Prod WM20019


























For Isabelle from Lyon, heres a repost from 2010, i've simply Changed the date on the original post to move it forward , everything else is as was originally published

Here's a little a little something congruent with the recent fascinating thread started by Onxydlib.
Firstly i must confess to an almost total ignorance of the Austrian and in this case Viennese Free Jazz scene of the late 60's and early 70's , knowing a few names , and having heard a tiny smattering of the music is all i can honestly profess.

Ive had this for years , whilst knowing next to nothing about it, and i guess i ought to declare that the vinyl itself is well worn , and covered in surface scratches... I've done my best in terms of balancing declicking the digital files and maintaining the Fullness of the original sound.

A lot of vinyl rips and concerts that have been cleaned up sound bleached out and thin to my ears ..... so ive done as little as possible ... a light sweep of crackle , and removals of individual objects... no compression, limiting or eq'ing what so ever.

Franz Ringel .. Who designed the cover is someone i know more about, He is one of Austrias national treasures.. More of his work can be Viewed here.

i find these sides , and particularly the reform art unit, more than merely very interesting listens and these certainly induce a craving to hear more!!!

Most people will have at least come across Toni Michelmyr , and Muhammad Malli, the bassist and drummer on both these sessions , they come across very strongly indeed , giving the impression they must have worked together alot....

Both also play on Steve lacy-Franz Kogelmqann's 'Opium" from the mid 70's which has been reissued By Kogelmann on his between the lines label , and is the only other thing i have actually heard by these guys .
there are- also a few tracks on the lacy Savarah Anthology "Dreams Scratching the 70s"which feature Muhammed MaLli as a guest percussionist.

There is not much info out there, in English about either of these groups .... its clear though that Masters of Unorthodox Jazz recorded several lp's at the very least, and Reform Art Unit , at least 4 or 5.
if anyone can provide more info , and or share other albums by these groups ... please do!

lp-1- Masters of unorthodox jazz
Aleaddin Adlernest (b-cl) Harum Ghulam Barabbas (as,ldr) Ahmed Pechoe (p) Tony Michlmayer (b) Muhammad
Malli (d,perc)


Lp-2
Sepp Mitterbauer (tp,org) Heinz Cadek (tb) Fritz Novotny (sop,fl,perc) Giselher
Smekal (org,p,perc) Tony Michlmayr (b) Muhammad Malli (perc) Kristin Novotny (vcl)
Vienna, May 5, 1970
Meditation-conversation and love (kn vcl)




ENJOY!!

new link as of october 2012

42 comments:

Damon Smith said...

Awesome! I have one LP by these guys, a later one with Linda Sharrock.
Just one question: Is it a 2 LP set or 2 different LPs?

Thanks again for this!!

sotise said...

heres a link for Vbr-160 to 230kbs
for the squeemish .
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FAR2T0GC
Damon ...Its a double lp , but i am almost certain both were also released individually.
how about ripping and uploading your lp with L.Sharrock?

onxidlib said...

This is extraordinary!!
You can't imagine how difficult it is even in Germany to get hold of old LPs from these musicians. Information is very scarce - and I live approximately 45 miles from the austrian border...
Lately I've heard rumors about a book concerning "Masters of Unorthodox Jazz"...
There is a LP/CD from the "Reform Art Unit" with Anthony Braxton and Clifford Thornton.
Plus there is a deleted CD with Walter Malli, Peter Kowald, Eugene Chadbourne and Sunny Murray which I bought in 2002. On this album they play free versions of "Wiener Lieder"(Songs from Vienna).
I confess I've forgot it completely...
While downloading your rips I listened to it for the first time in some years.
Thank you for "reminding" me and thank you so much for sharing these two LPs.

Arcturus said...

thanks for this sotise - look fwd to checking it out - largely unknown terrain for me as well - thaks too, while, I'm blabbin' here, for that Gazzelloni which I hadn't heard before . . . good to see ya active again

good to see Damon Smith chiming in here as well - if y'all don't know his music, it's be right up most ICS readers' musical alleys - yr [his] bad-ass bass has certainly energized many an evening for me, Damon

check it out:

http://www.balancepointacoustics.com/damon.php

Damon Smith said...

I bought the Chadbourne/Kowald from Malli a few years ago - great album! I heard about it years before from Chadbourne when I was playing with him.

Sadly, I don't have a great way to rip LPs, it is too bad, I have a great collection. I will work it out soon and find out about uploading here!

onxidlib said...

That would be great.
I remember the view of your flat's wall in the documentary "Noisy People" by Tim Perkis.
It was "plastered" with some interesting covers.
If memory serves me right there was a cover with Vincent Chancey and Peter Kowald. It was a duo recording - not the quartet which includes Louis Moholo and Floros Floridis.

SOTISE said...

Damon ,Yeah anytime .. you and anyone else is welcome to post their OOP stuff here , you could even post your own concerts or whatever!

Anonymous said...

Thanks a lot. The Austrian scene is poorly documented and this is a great apport to it.
Really Thanks a lot.

bernizz said...

Well, being an Autrian myself it is close to impossible to find these recods. Thanks for posting it. A couple of years ago, a book came out describing exactly this avant guarde scene in Vienna: Free-Jazz-Avantgarde. Wiener Revolution im Hinterzimmer by Andreas Felber. However, as you may deduct from the title, it is only available in German.

CleSla said...

hello, i am from vienna. my father used to play the bass in those scene back then, he also played with the guys from this LP sometimes.

we do own this LP too. my question: does anybody know how much you'll get for it? if you're interested you can contact me: kapitel.eins(a)gmx.at
thanks.

pedda said...

hi
pls re-upload

SOTISE said...

Hi Pedda , reposted!

SOTISE said...

link should now be functional
see post
7-2-013

bventure said...

I'm getting the old favourite "Download permission denied by uploader", probably just needs putting in a public folder.

SOTISE said...

Bventure, i have put it in a public folder, but i havent paid RS for over 2 years , let me know if you really cant grab it and ill upload to a different filehost

bventure said...

Really can't get it from RS - I get "Download permission denied by uploader. (0b67c2f5)". If you can make it available without too much hassle that would be terrific. I'm puzzled though, as this is the exact error that everyone was geting when RS suddenly changed the sharing rules - e.g. see the comments at http://wilfullyobscure.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/regarding-all-rapidshare-linksfor-now.html

SOTISE said...

Bventure, here's the whole kit n kaboodle, the Fileset straight bfrom my recorder, only light declicking
a much better sound than the original rip.

it may need volume adjustment, and conversion to 16bit 44hz for burning.
this is ripped to wav 24 bit, 48hz, then flac'd
i simply dont have the bandwidth to upload 900mb in one file i tried, and it failed, (a 9 hour upload )
so ... flac, pics, split archive!

https://mega.co.nz/#!wMEkgQiS!HGV00hZe2IpGPnriUejic3Oh_tIIpZTJNbfq7yYjNFk
https://mega.co.nz/#!YFl3UaYS!MgLACUm8urh4577llu5ixyCITF06Y2xYXs2rZZ7QZR0
https://mega.co.nz/#!5QUQRTjS!azghkC3um2eBA25TnhMaBifKeSk6WU9b8TrAntSMLKc
https://mega.co.nz/#!cJVhGI7B!YEQfoTEfoWS4sbMDOSX-xghZxwdTmBpI444NCmtGJzA

bventure said...

Downloading now, that is so kind of you sotise, I genuinely appreciate all the trouble you've gone to with this.

SOTISE said...

So bventure , no problems?

bventure said...

Sorry, not visited this page for a while, but no, absolutely no problems. I'm listening to (and very much enjoying) it right now, which is what brought me back here to have a peek at the comments. Thanks again.

brian said...

scans from my lp


http://rapidshare.com/files/3837913649/vja-scans.zip

Daniel Karrer said...

Absolutely awesome!!!!

Javier Roz said...

Thanks SOTISE! Mega links still works after two years!

Anonymous said...

Can this re-up?

onxidlib said...

1fichier

brian said...

i will post on my blog much better version with good scans!

onxidlib said...

Looking forward to it, Brian!!

Scraps said...

Where is your blog, Brian? (I probably knew and forgot; that's my forgetfulness from my stroke....)

brian said...

http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/OOCQNFZG/vienna_jazz_avantgarde.part1.rar_links
http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/AESRUXM8/vienna_jazz_avantgarde.part2.rar_links
http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/0XWU7NIG/vienna_jazz_avantgarde.part3.rar_links
http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/1GEZMSM3/vienna_jazz_avantgarde.part4.rar_links
http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/WJPJF7NU/vienna_jazz_avantgarde.part5.rar_links
http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/70KNACD6/vienna_jazz_avantgarde.part6.rar_links
scans
http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/1K8PZ8HJ/vienna_jazz_avantgarde_scans.rar_links

P.S.: i don't know is it better....

brian said...

http://prettybrian.blogspot.com

onxidlib said...

Thank brian, Really appreciated.
Do you mean you don't know wether the rip is better or your LP copy?

Anonymous said...

There is too much closing of pop ups. Thanks anyway.

Colin Green said...

Unfortunately, that's right. Mirror Creator is a pop-up nightmare - all kinds of dodgy websites trying to access my computer.

brian said...

i use

pro-ject turntable
mac pro comp
audacity
click repair (usually 10/10 because the lps are well preserved)
sound studio (for manually repairing)
max 0.9 (for making files flac)

Scraps said...

Colin, can you use anti-popup software, or does mirrorcreator defeat that?

Brian, thank you!

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the adware brian.

onxidlib said...

I have no problem with any pop-ups. I use Firefox and Adblock Plus.

Colin Green said...

Thanks for the tip. I've installed Adblock Plus which defeats most (but not all) of the new windows that pop up. I assume that software isn't itself a problem :-)

onxidlib said...

Yep, Colin you're right.
The few remaining pop-ups do no harm to me. I delete them in an old-fashioned way.
At least up to now never got any problem apart from the usual annyoance.
It seems this will remain a common feature while using the internet.

Tantris said...

This LP looks really interesting, but the pop-ups threaten malware, and I haven't been able to download any of the files. Any tips for blocking pop-ups on a Mac?

onxidlib said...

Hi Tantris - these are the Zippy links via mirrorcreator:

http://www44.zippyshare.com/v/bDrcPJSR/file.html
http://www111.zippyshare.com/v/LStDOuKV/file.html
http://www24.zippyshare.com/v/6fcAKluX/file.html
http://www110.zippyshare.com/v/5at7fM6V/file.html
http://www31.zippyshare.com/v/VeMsfnjx/file.html
http://www113.zippyshare.com/v/4IZXFXhA/file.html

scans
http://www16.zippyshare.com/v/f5Vq1iR0/file.html

Hope brian doesn't mind.....

Tantris said...

Thank you very much, onxidlib - very much appreciated!