9 November 2007


heres a great and now sadly rare and unreissued LEE KONITZ/ MATIAL SOLAL album , which was recorded in italy for the shortlived, now famed horo label.

The horo label ,is probably most remembered these days for a couple of legendary sun ra small group albums, and documents of sam rivers tuba band.
They also recorded many supposedly “mainstream ‘ gems.
I d have to disagree with anyone who thinks of konitz, as a mainstream player.

John tchicai reffered to konitz as the most avantguard sax player of the sixties after Coltrane!!!

This album contains what must be among the most radical deconstructions of standard jazz tunes ever
With konitz and solal pushing into a chromaticism so extreme on some tracks that tonal centers of tunes disappear entirely.
Often the melody is not even stated in its original form at all, and either fractured beyond the point of recognition.
Or completely pulverized after a brief passing statement.

Its easy to characterize this as cool, dry, whatever.
That there are freedoms here is an understatement, the pervasive level of thematic abstraction has its own freefloating momentum.

Check it out and understand what tchicai,( and Braxton ,for that matter) was on about.

Konitz- alto and tenor sax
Martial solal- piano

(double lp)
info and some partial scans included.


sotise said...

Lee konitz martial solal-DUPLICITY



zero said...

Thanks for guiding me over here, sotise, and for Duplicity (and the flacs!). Konitz and Solal make a knock-out duo.

zero said...

Thanks for guiding me over here, sotise, and for Duplicity (and the flacs!). Konitz and Solal make a knock-out duo.

chuchuni said...

First off, thanx for this great post Sotise. Konitz/Solal, and a rare one to boot. I'll get the Flac files in the morning when I get back home (it's nighttime here in Europe).

Second, and most significantly, sorry for not checking this great blog more often. And for not taking the time to leave a comment.

Thanks again

Abe said...

Thanks again for some more great music. Konitz really puts his own spin on his material - his album Motion (verve) with Elvin Jones is another example - you've got to know the heads really well to hear how he's using them as a remote starting point.

sotise said...

glad y'all are enjoying it.
chuch and zero
thanks f'r dropping by.
ill be uploading more oop lee in the comming months so stay tuned.

abe, yeah motion is a favourite
my only problem with that is sonny dallas on db, he doesnt quite seem attuned to what elvin jones is doing .
i find him lacking responsiveness, a bit wooden , maybe he played with lennie t once too often.
still a stunning set though.

even a schooled musician who plays those standards would have trouble recognising them on duplicity.
knowing the heads isnt nessecarily going to help.

il angelo said...

Everything I have heard by them as a duo ( Berlin Days 1980 - MPS- and Star Eyes from 1983, hatology) is top notch. My anticipation runs high.
Thanks for the great blog

dubmusic said...

Looks interesting.
Thanks for the effort!

Wallofsound said...

This is great as well. More LK oop please. I'll see if I've got anythinglee that might be of interest.

gilhodges said...

Sol is shining constantly these days and it is warm and deeply pleasurable. Thanks! I have questions about the breakdown of the MP3 files. When I downloaded them, they came up as four separate files: Side 1, Side 2, etc., but the times for the MP3 files don't seem to match up with the track listing times as given on the record jacket.

For instance, the MP3 for "Side 1" has a length of 12:48, but three tunes on Side One of the record (Duplicity 6:58; Roman Walkings 5:28 & Esselle 4:25) add up to a total time of 16:51. The Mp3 for "Side 2" is 14:18 in length, yet the record jacket shows that the one tune on the record's second side (Words Have Been Changed) is 18:55. There are similar discrepancies with the "Side 3" and "Side 4" MP3s.

Can anyone explain how the breakdown of the MP3s into individual tunes works? I am a radio DJ and would like to correctly identify the tracks that I'm playing.

Many thanks!

sotise said...

the times on the lp jacket scan are incorrect, something that also occured on other horo releases.

the turntable used was running at the correct speed , so side 1(tagged)= side a of the first lp, and so forth.
hope this helps

Tantris said...

I have been listening to this this morning - it is great - and now I want to hear more from both musicians. Who can tell me more about Martial Solal, and what else he did?

gilhodges said...

Thanks so much for the explanation. The record is sublime.

Hackensack said...

Many thanks for drawing my attention to this beauty, sotise. Two of my favourite artists performing together, and another Horo for the collection: wonderful!

ubu said...

Another one of my modest covers:


Thank you very, very much for sharing this - a great one!

I posted a little bit of Solal on my blog, too (in FLAC format):


ABE said...

I went back and listened to Motion, and yep, the bass part sounds like something from a Sonny Stitt album. He took his job as time keeper seriously and didn't let go once. It's fun to think of who I'd like to hear there instead. Charlie Haden?

I only managed to catch "All The Things" on this session, because they play the last 8 bars (harmonically) straight. Then i realized the liner notes gave the tune titles...

Great music - Thanks!

jb said...

Beautiful record. Thanks.

Neroon001 said...

This looks like a terrific record,I have heard both of these outstanding players but not together. Thank you very much for giving me the chance to hear this !

Anonymous said...

Gracias amigos. Matial Solal es una maravilla (y Konitz no le va a la zaga). Estupendo blog. P.

Anonymous said...

Hi, I haven't posted here before and I just wanted to thank you for making this great recording available. I have Konitz and Solal's 1960 duo recording from the 1980 Berlin Jazz Festival, which I listened to from the wings at the time it was performed. The blog "Magic Purple Sunshine" has it. Anyway, there's one mistake and one omission in Chris Sheridan's keys to the song titles.

Side 1. Duplicity (My Old Flame), Roman Walkings (All the Things You Are), Esselle (Sweet and Lovely).

Side 2. Words Have Been Changed (Three Little Words)

Side 3. November Talk (I Love You), Blues Sketch (?)

Side 4. Rhythm Talk (I Got Rhythm)

The ones Chris misses are Duplicity and November Talk (he says it's Indian Summer by Victor Herbert, however, that's a song that starts on the I Major and this is obviously Cole Porter's I Love You). I'm not sure after one listening, whether blues sketch is a standard form or not, but maybe it will come to me. Thanks.

swamielmo said...

glad to see the links still up. this is great great music by 2 of my favorites ..... thank you

JC said...

Thanks a lot. Lee Konitz is indeed remarkable. When he's in the zone I don't think anyone pushes improvisation on the melodic line any further. Looking forward to hearing what they do here.