10 August 2017

Gil Mellé - Waterbirds 1970

Gil Mellé is famous for is late 50’s recordings on Blue Note and later for his superbe Tome VI that includes electronic processing over acoustic instruments. This one have been reissued in Japan some years ago and still can be found. From the start of the seventies Mellé will concentrate on compositions for movie or television. His soundtrack for « The Andromeda Strain » is considered as a landmark music in the field of electronic. Here is « Waterbirds » that is probably his last jazz album. In fact this lp is a compilation of themes composed between 1969 to 1970 for various télé series.

A1 Waterbirds (Pt. 1) 7:37
A2 Waterbirds (Pt. 2) 6:34
A3 Walkin' Down The Gloomy Streets...Alone...Broke...Depressed...Gonna Kill Myself Blues 4:55
AA4 Little Big Horn 9:24
AA5 The Love Song 1:28
AA6 My Sweet Charlie 6:34
AA7 Charlie Chaplin 4:10

Bass [Fender] – Dave Parlato (tracks: A2, A3, AA4 to AA7)
Composed By, Arranged By, Conducted By, Conductor, Soprano Saxophone, Other [Special Electronic Musical Instruments] – Gil Mellé
Drums – Fred C. Stofflet
Guitar – Art Johnson (tracks: A2, A3, A5), Joe Cinderella (tracks: A1)
Piano [Fender] – Pete Robinson (tracks: AA4, AA6, AA7)

This album is superbe and show the strong ability of Mellé as a composer. The listen gives a unified feeling despite the fact that each title have been composed independently from the rest.
I have remastered and edited this album from a mp3 version.

This lp has been edited for the first time under the reference:
Nocturne Nrs 702
and have been reissued by Jazz Chronicles in 1977 under the reference Jcs 702

18 comments:

correct silence said...

https://1fichier.com/?el5kvrr9la

bventure said...

Thanks for this, love Gil Mellé. Was about to download when I saw you had remastered this from mp3. I already have this as mp3 but only at 192. I wondered what mp3 bit rate you started with for this? Seems little point increasing the size of the file by converting it to flac, as it won't improve the quality.

correct silence said...

Trust your ears and check the sound by yourself, it is the best way. But if you want more details the source is a mp3/192 probably. I use an equalizer to upgrade the frequencies that have been lost, if you check the frequency spectrum you will see that it reach 22 khz.

francisco santos said...

BIG THX!...

Anonymous said...

Gracias. Ramón

rev.b said...

I have what must be a very skewed view of Gil Melle. I first became aware of his work through a used copy of Tome IV on Verve. The next encounter was this record. It was a new copy of the original issue on a US small private label. The cover was this photo sans writing. I’ve always been attracted by wordless covers ala ESP releases, the back covers of the BYG/Actuel albums, etc. That along with having heard Tome IV clinched the deal. His 50’s work is fine, but seemed staid compared to what I already knew. This is my favorite Gil. Looks like afterwards he concentrated on writing soundtracks. I wish he’d continued making albums like Waterbirds, but I guess, like the rest of us, he liked to eat and being able to pay the rent. Thank you for the post and the upgrade.

Anonymous said...

correct silence,
there is a cut off on 13khz and the peak is on 17khz.
What once cut off is lost forever. You can't grow a useful sound using EQ or any other "magik" tool. What you can get is just an amplified version of what you have in the range up to 17khz, but it's a dubious improvment. And what you "added" above 17khz is just a cloud of noise. Absolutely useless.
Please, consider to study the subject better, before starting to follow a bad example of Vitko the Trickster from DPIMR, making files several times bigger they are.
However, it's good you warn your audience about it at least.

Regards,
Igor

Anonymous said...

Absolutely useless post - converting in such a way is totally sucky and this site deserves better and has been consistently better - if you can't find the album which seems to be the case why not ask for it - maybe someone with a real copy of this LP can do a rip ?

rev.b said...

Every copy of the vinyl I've come across is inundated with fairly heavy surface noise. I appreciate Igor's perspective and reservations, but until the original masters of these recordings are issued, this is what we have to work with. Igor, you appeal to me as either an engineer or at least someone well versed in this area. If possible, perhaps someone with an un EQ'd file can post it. I'd be interested to hear how you'd deal with this poor pressing. If correct silence hadn't tried something, I probably would have. In any event I'm happy to have the music in digital form. Thanks again. Not useless to me at all.

correct silence said...

Hey Anonymous first if you are so strong in words you should start to post under a name, don't hide yourself. Who are you man to judge if a post u-is useful or no? What sort of contributions have you ever made here or elsewhere? Are you just one of those many guys who download everywhere and never provide anything? I have clearly written on the post that it comes from a mp3 version. Perhaps you need to learn to read before coming here. If you are not satisfied with this post there are several copies of this lp for sale at discogs, you can buy one and make a new post if you want.

correct silence said...

@Igor.
You may be right but do you listen to the music with your eyes or with your ears. If you don't like the sound I can send you the original file and you can make your own mastering.

rev.b said...

.....and if you think you can improve it and are willing share the results Igor, it will be my privilege to sing your praises! I listened to this in the car today - much cleaner than my Lps. Both the original and reissue pressing are noisy, sounding like the stylus is dirty. but it isn't. That said, as with Sun Ra albums on El Saturn, the music's no nice, I overlook the sketchy pressings.

Anonymous said...

rev.b,
oh, no, i'm not even close to be an audio engineer and my knowledge and experience in this area are very limited, but i do make some researches to dispel the fog of own ignorance and i think everyone's should, especially when one deals with an audience for the common good.
It is really great when someone devotes his time and energy to share some things that might interest other people and does his best to present those things to them as best as possible, but it's necessary to correlate subjective vision with objective reality.

correct silence,
and the objective reality is that when the full information body of an audio recording once was chopped by a hatchet-codec during the compression operation you can't recover the lost pieces of it, no matter how refined your shamanic dancing with a tambourine is.

correct silence, rev b.,
imagine an artwork, which shows a drum set. A large picture of drums and cymbals. And here he comes - some trained terminator-termit, who starts to eat the picture greedily. He moves around it in a schematic, calculating way, carrying out someone's order, and devours it's fragments here and there, bites some crazy big chunks of hi-hat off and turns the whole and complete work of art to a sieve. The damage is not noticeable to you - while being on a distance you see no visible changes, but when approaching the image you can see many and many holes in it. So you think: what is this crap?! What is wrong with those cymbals for drums sake?!
Here you go, same thing happens when they encode lossless audio to lossy formats. Same impression you get playing lossy files on mediocre and good audio devices respectively. Thus, you can clearly hear the distortions lossy audio goes with on a good equipment. while it can really sound pretty OK on a portable player.

correct silence,
so, as i've already marked, when you have lossy material you can't turn it to lossless, and there is no use to stretch the files. Using some special software you can make the clean-up or amplification or whatever it allows you to do, but you can't retrieve those fragments the trained terminator-termit once absorbed.
When i say you make a dubious improvement using EQ i mean it is easy to ruin that trying to improve this for the one who says "I use an equalizer to upgrade the frequencies that have been lost". It's just a note.
Together with that, just as rev b. i find your activity in this blog very useful, thanks.

rev b.,
sorry, i can't make it sound any better.

Regards,
Igor

rev.b said...

Mercifully, it doesn't bother me nearly as much as it seems to bother you Igor.

Best regards,

b

bventure said...

Must say it does bother me rev.b. Of course, this is not a useless post. anyone who hasn't got ths should obvioulsy take this download & be properly gratful to Correct Silence for providing it. That said, I have listened to both versions (the original @192 [can't recall wher eit came from], and this remaster). I have to say I think I prefer the orginal, the remaster seems to have made the surface noise worse. Maybe just my ears. But even for those who prefer the remastered version, there was absolutely no point bloating the file to flac, you can't put back what has already been thrown away.

Finally, rev.b. you said "Looks like afterwards he concentrated on writing soundtracks. I wish he’d continued making albums like Waterbirds...". Please note that Water Birds is actually a collection of soundtracks, and none the worse for that! (See discogs for the details)

rev.b said...

I'm sorry to hear that bventure. I certainly didn't intend to cook your egg over it. If you have the original of this file, I'd love to be able to compare it with this one, either here or at ADSoB, perhaps I'd agree with you. As for your clarification re soundtracks, I do enjoy the recordings on Waterbirds. Are you familiar with any of Gil's other work in soundtracks? Were any as jazz based as these? If so, I'll have to hunt them down.

bventure said...

No problem rev.b., I only meant to voice an opinion, and express gratitude for correct silence's post while explaining my misgivings. Last thing I wanted to do was offend any of the good people who have made this site a model of what could and should be done. Sorry if it didn't come over like that, it was meant if a friendly & constructive way.

Re other Gil Mellé stuff, I do have some, also @192, probably from the same source as Water Birds, whatever that was (might have been the late lamented Willard's Wormholes?). I'll give them another listen (been a while) & pass on any I think you might enjoy. Watch this space.

rev.b said...

Sweet! That would be very kind of you. I recently came across an album of his from 1993 I believe, but it really wan't my cuppa tea. I'm still interested to hear the original Waterbirds file for comparison. I was sorry to see Willard leave too. He/she/they/it certainly spread a lot great music around and the research info that was usually included was of great value.